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Toledo Hospital Can't Hold Patients Who Are Suspects

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Published on Wednesday, 30 November -0001 00:00
Written by Jeff Garvas

The Toledo Blade is reporting that a Toledo Hospital has indicated it is not responsible for a suspect who led police on a chase, crashed on I-280, and left the hospital after being treated.

From the story:
    "For many years, St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center has had a written policy in place that states we cannot hold a patient or former patient at the request of law enforcement. This policy has been clearly communicated to law enforcement," the statement read.

    "As a provider of health-care services, we do not have the legal right or authority to arrest or detain individuals. We work to communicate with law enforcement as much as possible within our rights. Police have the ability to arrest an individual while they are a patient and are then obligated to provide a police guard."
Followers of OFCC news will recall that St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center in Toledo is just one of the many hospitals across the state that chooses to affirmatively disarm it's customer's and visitors by posting "no guns" signs. Not only do they choose to post the hospital but they also post the parking garages. This comes after quotes by a hospital spokesperson that "Our goal is always to provide the safest environment we can".

As this story suggests, it seems the hospital is assuming no responsibility for the safety of their patients or visitors and the Toledo Police Department is obviously understaffed and cannot provide the manpower for protection. Who then is responsible? Thanks to the legislators in Ohio, the answer seems to be that no one is. There is no liability on the hospital's part for disarming it's visitors.

Fortunately in this case the perpetrator left without causing harm to anyone. However, as we have reported many times this has not always been the case.


Comments by Larry S. Moore, OFCC Senate District 10 Coordinator:

The hospital can't hold people who are suspects in crimes according to St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center policy as reported in the Toledo Blade. Fair enough in that hospitals don't have police powers and most of the security guards are unarmed and unprepared to deal with detaining criminals. The hospital should have a policy to quickly notify the police. However Toledo Police Chief Mike Navarre is quoted in the Toledo Blade story as saying his department can not afford to put a guard on every suspect in the hospital due to manpower limitations and costs. I guess Chief Navarre has plenty of money for fuel, tires and vehicle repairs following high-speed pursuits.

Readers of this site will recall that Toledo has plenty of money to manufacture and post no gun signs at Toledo parks. There were plenty of police available during one citizen's recent protest and arrest at a Toledo park for violating the parks no gun signs.

The bottom line in Toledo appears to be that the hospital is not responsible for suspects, or the damage they do after being released, and the police can not guard suspects. So who is left looking out for the honest citizens of Toledo? Maybe Mayor Ford? Or maybe no one? Are the citizens of Toledo prepared to look out for themselves? This story certainly indicates there is a need for self-defense and concealed carry in Toledo.

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